Comments on: Concept: Four layers of web development

By: M. Lowe

M. Lowe — Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:47:55 +0000

Thank you, I am doing the same thing and just hadn’t put it to words as well as you have here. Good job.

By: Tim Bromhead

Tim Bromhead — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:40:03 +0000

Nice one, that is how I think too. You’ve explained it well.

By: Emil Stenström

Emil Stenström — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:41:45 +0000

Thanks, that’s much easier to read :)

By: martin

martin — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:11:10 +0000

@Emil: I said that I agree, 말딘 said that this was a useful article. I agree, the translators are terrable, probably has something to do with the verb being at the end instead of between the object and subject.

By: Emil Stenström

Emil Stenström — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:15:23 +0000

@말딘, martin: I’d like it if you used english on my blog, the korean to english translators are quite bad.

By: martin

martin — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 02:47:00 +0000

@ 말딘: 한가지 여기: 규격

By: 말딘

말딘 — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 02:35:35 +0000

수예품 유효하요. 감사합니다.

By: shavinder singh

shavinder singh — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:07:33 +0000

very insightful, honest, summative and quick-read stuff. i can’t even remember when was the last web-article i read without giving it up half-way. this in comparison was a breeze.

By: Henrik Feldt

Henrik Feldt — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 15:13:25 +0000

It would be more fun to read about server-side tiers and n-tier development where there really is something to discuss!

By: Emil Stenström

Emil Stenström — Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:00:32 +0000

@Adedeji Olowe: Good comment. Hmm… I think that goes outside of this client side model. Even though I can imagine creating RSS-feeds from javascript ;)

A larger image of all the parts, both server-side and client-side would be nice, want to make one?

By: Adedeji Olowe

Adedeji Olowe — Wed, 07 Jun 2006 11:14:40 +0000

Shouldn’t be something called Interaction Layer? Where your website could interact with others (RSS, webservices, bla bla) which per see is not data or behaviour?

By: Emil Stenström

Emil Stenström — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 18:30:25 +0000

@Graham King: I’m not talking about code libraries here. This is just a way of thinking about what parts the client side is divided in. Javascript naturally belongs in the Behavoiur layer.

By: Graham King

Graham King — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 09:11:23 +0000

Emil - can you expand on the idea of a CSS abstraction layer? I’ve used the Behaviour.js library, which uses css selectors to add event handlers, but on a dynamic page this requires the DOM to be re-scanned after every change, which is a killer for performance.

By: Emil Stenström

Emil Stenström — Sun, 04 Jun 2006 00:03:19 +0000

@Jesse Skinner: I must agree there, the separation between structure and design/behaviour is not as sharp as one would like. I’m waiting for the CSS3 selectors to be better supported, that will save a lot of classing.

For behaviour we can always use some kind of CSS abstraction layer that lets us select tags in the DOM with the help of CSS.

By: Jesse Skinner

Jesse Skinner — Sat, 03 Jun 2006 19:06:52 +0000

I have to take turns working in all four layers, but not always in order. I try to avoid it, but usually the Behaviour and Design require changes in the Structure, such as additional IDs, Classes or div/span tags.