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		<title>By: tom barnfield</title>
		<link>http://friendlybit.com/html/accessibility-as-a-platform-to-build-upon/#comment-24320</link>
		<dc:creator>tom barnfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 13:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Terrance Wood: What you say you'd prefer (or I, for that matter) is largely irrelevant. The presentation methods that get the most commercially relevant responses from us will inevitably become prevalent. Currently the flashier online experiences, like those requiring that extra layer, are achieving results. They overshadow the older, duller, understated methods. Like it or not, animation and multi-media are becoming the standard. perhaps you just haven't seen them used well? Or perhaps used well, they are so easily overlooked?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Terrance Wood: What you say you&#8217;d prefer (or I, for that matter) is largely irrelevant. The presentation methods that get the most commercially relevant responses from us will inevitably become prevalent. Currently the flashier online experiences, like those requiring that extra layer, are achieving results. They overshadow the older, duller, understated methods. Like it or not, animation and multi-media are becoming the standard. perhaps you just haven&#8217;t seen them used well? Or perhaps used well, they are so easily overlooked?</p>
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		<title>By: Emil Stenström</title>
		<link>http://friendlybit.com/html/accessibility-as-a-platform-to-build-upon/#comment-23808</link>
		<dc:creator>Emil Stenström</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Terrence Wood: You're missing the point, this article is about having both plain HTML and adding another layer on top of that with effects. When you build like that it's easy to give people like you an option of turning off the top layer.

And to answer your rhetoric questions, you know exactly what kind of people I talk about, don't be silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Terrence Wood: You&#8217;re missing the point, this article is about having both plain HTML and adding another layer on top of that with effects. When you build like that it&#8217;s easy to give people like you an option of turning off the top layer.</p>
<p>And to answer your rhetoric questions, you know exactly what kind of people I talk about, don&#8217;t be silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrence Wood</title>
		<link>http://friendlybit.com/html/accessibility-as-a-platform-to-build-upon/#comment-23802</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrence Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who are "we" really: web designers, under 25, MTV viewers?

Who are "those" in accessibility that advocate ruling out everything but plain HTML?

And do "we" really want more interactivity?

MTV users, who you would expect to want an all-singing all-dancing flash site, obviously don't:
http://digg.com/tech_news/MTV_Launches_New_HORRIBLE_Flash_Design

http://www.cyberjournalist.net/news/004180.php

Could it be that "we" want to Interact with your site, rather than have your site "interact" upon us?

Personally, I'm not opposed to beautiful looking things, but I prefer to be able to submit a form, copy some content, or understand where to go next over partial page reloads and animation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are &#8220;we&#8221; really: web designers, under 25, MTV viewers?</p>
<p>Who are &#8220;those&#8221; in accessibility that advocate ruling out everything but plain HTML?</p>
<p>And do &#8220;we&#8221; really want more interactivity?</p>
<p>MTV users, who you would expect to want an all-singing all-dancing flash site, obviously don&#8217;t:<br />
<a href="http://digg.com/tech_news/MTV_Launches_New_HORRIBLE_Flash_Design" rel="nofollow">http://digg.com/tech_news/MTV_Launches_New_HORRIBLE_Flash_Design</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cyberjournalist.net/news/004180.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyberjournalist.net/news/004180.php</a></p>
<p>Could it be that &#8220;we&#8221; want to Interact with your site, rather than have your site &#8220;interact&#8221; upon us?</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m not opposed to beautiful looking things, but I prefer to be able to submit a form, copy some content, or understand where to go next over partial page reloads and animation.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://friendlybit.com/html/accessibility-as-a-platform-to-build-upon/#comment-19105</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 19:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn't agree more, some great points raised. This extra layer of non unobtrusive interaction is just what the doctor ordered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more, some great points raised. This extra layer of non unobtrusive interaction is just what the doctor ordered.</p>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
		<link>http://friendlybit.com/html/accessibility-as-a-platform-to-build-upon/#comment-18777</link>
		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I think of getting into multimedia more, I think of SMIL. I wish browsers suppported it, because I really think it could be accepted by regular users and it wouldn't require authors to know any javascript to accomplish a few simple things. Nice article/entry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I think of getting into multimedia more, I think of SMIL. I wish browsers suppported it, because I really think it could be accepted by regular users and it wouldn&#8217;t require authors to know any javascript to accomplish a few simple things. Nice article/entry.</p>
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