Comments on: Inline CSS should not be allowed in strict doctypes http://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/ You have found Friendly Bit, a web development blog. I focus on client side technologies like CSS, HTML and Javascript. You find my articles below and categories to the right. Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:56:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Alexhttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-32911 Alex Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:58:09 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-32911 You were right Emil. Validating the CSS solves my problem. Thanks a lot! You were right Emil. Validating the CSS solves my problem. Thanks a lot!

]]> By: Emil Stenströmhttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-32909 Emil Stenström Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:39:17 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-32909 @Alex Design: Not much have changed when it comes to CSS in the latest version of Firefox. My best bet is that you have an error there somewhere, and the best way to figure that out is to simply move out all your CSS to an external file and validate it. Annoying, but something really should do. @Alex Design: Not much have changed when it comes to CSS in the latest version of Firefox. My best bet is that you have an error there somewhere, and the best way to figure that out is to simply move out all your CSS to an external file and validate it. Annoying, but something really should do.

]]> By: Alex Designhttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-32906 Alex Design Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:50:04 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-32906 Hello Emil,I'm sorry for digging up this old post but after the release of Firefox 3.5.2 i have a bunch of problems with the inline CSS.First of all i have to say that i don't have as much experience as many designers do, but i give my best to acomplish my projects. The reason why i'm writing this comment is that after the release of the new Firefox version a project of mine shows completely different. It's like the inline CSS is ignored or something like this. I wrote an e-mail to firefox with this problem but i didn't got any reply.I hope you can help me in this matter because i have no more options.Best regards, Alex Hello Emil,

I’m sorry for digging up this old post but after the release of Firefox 3.5.2 i have a bunch of problems with the inline CSS.

First of all i have to say that i don’t have as much experience as many designers do, but i give my best to acomplish my projects. The reason why i’m writing this comment is that after the release of the new Firefox version a project of mine shows completely different. It’s like the inline CSS is ignored or something like this. I wrote an e-mail to firefox with this problem but i didn’t got any reply.

I hope you can help me in this matter because i have no more options.

Best regards,
Alex

]]> By: prezentyhttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-30662 prezenty Wed, 28 May 2008 16:58:09 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-30662 This is interesting article, I did not it think that it yes. Interesting it knew persons about this how much. Sorry if I wrote bad there now my English is novice and I do not it write yet good. This is interesting article, I did not it think that it yes. Interesting it knew persons about this how much. Sorry if I wrote bad there now my English is novice and I do not it write yet good.

]]> By: mogens overbeckhttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-24418 mogens overbeck Sat, 19 May 2007 14:06:38 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-24418 In my view inline styles *are* actually a good thing, since you can use them during the initial markup phase - that's often the way I do it, anyway. I mark up, styling as I go, and in the end transfer the css to an external stylesheet, so for me it's just a handy way of speeding up the workflow. I see your point though, if it wasn't allowed, people would be forced to learn better development practices, but I'm not sure I agree that's the way to go about it :o) In my view inline styles *are* actually a good thing, since you can use them during the initial markup phase – that’s often the way I do it, anyway. I mark up, styling as I go, and in the end transfer the css to an external stylesheet, so for me it’s just a handy way of speeding up the workflow. I see your point though, if it wasn’t allowed, people would be forced to learn better development practices, but I’m not sure I agree that’s the way to go about it :o)

]]> By: Transparent PNGs and IE6 standalone - Friendly Bithttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-23797 Transparent PNGs and IE6 standalone - Friendly Bit Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:44:39 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-23797 [...] Two background images later, one that the author could specify (added with a style tag in the head, not with inline styles), and one with the transparency. Everything worked flawlessly in Firefox, Opera, and IE7, as [...] [...] Two background images later, one that the author could specify (added with a style tag in the head, not with inline styles), and one with the transparency. Everything worked flawlessly in Firefox, Opera, and IE7, as [...]

]]> By: Sean Fraserhttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-13682 Sean Fraser Sat, 13 Jan 2007 01:59:04 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-13682 Emil: I agree: inline styles should not be allowed in Strict documents. I found twisted irony in <strong>my</strong> having to do so. Emil: I agree: inline styles should not be allowed in Strict documents. I found twisted irony in my having to do so.

]]> By: Emil Stenströmhttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-13490 Emil Stenström Fri, 12 Jan 2007 05:52:06 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-13490 @Sean Fraser: I've done that too, real world projects sometimes require you to work with only inline styles. Thing is, the html of those sites are so bad it's just silly calling them valid anything. You're in there really mixing style and content in worse ways than we did in 1996!I've done the same, but I don't think that's an argument against removing it. @Sean Fraser: I’ve done that too, real world projects sometimes require you to work with only inline styles. Thing is, the html of those sites are so bad it’s just silly calling them valid anything. You’re in there really mixing style and content in worse ways than we did in 1996!

I’ve done the same, but I don’t think that’s an argument against removing it.

]]> By: Sean Fraserhttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-13454 Sean Fraser Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:45:58 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-13454 When I read this in May I nodded and thought how true. Inline styles in Strict should not be done. However. I've recently had the <em>pleasure</em> of working on a Strict site where I was not allowed to touch the style sheets but given access to the products' HTML content. [Styles sheets were in the CMS of the design agency; product pages were client accessible. Don't ask.] I used inline styles for new HTML elements. A real world website, indeed. When I read this in May I nodded and thought how true. Inline styles in Strict should not be done. However. I’ve recently had the pleasure of working on a Strict site where I was not allowed to touch the style sheets but given access to the products’ HTML content. [Styles sheets were in the CMS of the design agency; product pages were client accessible. Don't ask.] I used inline styles for new HTML elements. A real world website, indeed.

]]> By: Emil Stenströmhttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-10231 Emil Stenström Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:19:33 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-10231 @Jeremy Nicoll: The relation is clear, whether you choose to see it or not. Doctypes define what elements and attributes are allowed in a document. It could therefore disallow the style attribute...Why you shouldn't be allowed to use it "only once"? Because once rarely stay once when you deal with real world websites. If you've allowed one step away from the content/style separation you'll easily do more of them. @Jeremy Nicoll: The relation is clear, whether you choose to see it or not. Doctypes define what elements and attributes are allowed in a document. It could therefore disallow the style attribute…

Why you shouldn’t be allowed to use it “only once”? Because once rarely stay once when you deal with real world websites. If you’ve allowed one step away from the content/style separation you’ll easily do more of them.

]]> By: Jeremy Nicollhttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-10146 Jeremy Nicoll Sat, 23 Dec 2006 02:25:36 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-10146 The strict doctype has no relation to whether inline styles are used or not. The main idea of CSS is to separate content and styling, and so inline styling is discouraged - but this is something that CSS experts generally encourage and has nothing to do with doctypes. In strict mode, inline styling is perfectly valid as style is a valid property of most objects. The only time that I ever use inline styling is when I am applying a style to an element that I am only going to use once. Why clutter up my CSS file with something that is only going to be used once? The strict doctype has no relation to whether inline styles are used or not. The main idea of CSS is to separate content and styling, and so inline styling is discouraged – but this is something that CSS experts generally encourage and has nothing to do with doctypes. In strict mode, inline styling is perfectly valid as style is a valid property of most objects. The only time that I ever use inline styling is when I am applying a style to an element that I am only going to use once. Why clutter up my CSS file with something that is only going to be used once?

]]> By: Pozycjonowaniehttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-5843 Pozycjonowanie Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:07:37 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-5843 Max, you shouldn’t add style attributes with JavaScript, you’re then mixing style and behaviour. Instead, you should add classes/ids and reference them in the stylesheet. Not ideal in a few cases, but the majority of the time that’s the best solution. Max, you shouldn’t add style attributes with JavaScript, you’re then mixing style and behaviour. Instead, you should add classes/ids and reference them in the stylesheet. Not ideal in a few cases, but the majority of the time that’s the best solution.

]]> By: Esqueça o atributo style. Estilos inline em doctype strict são resquícios do câncer de um passado sem padrões. » Revolução Etc - Web Standards em uma casca de noz!http://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-4068 Esqueça o atributo style. Estilos inline em doctype strict são resquícios do câncer de um passado sem padrões. » Revolução Etc - Web Standards em uma casca de noz! Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:08:09 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-4068 [...] Seguindo o exemplo de Emil Stenström qual a diferença entre os dois exemplos abaixo na sua opinião? [...] [...] Seguindo o exemplo de Emil Stenström qual a diferença entre os dois exemplos abaixo na sua opinião? [...]

]]> By: About Web Designing » Blog Archive » Inline CSS should not be allowed in strict doctypeshttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-2856 About Web Designing » Blog Archive » Inline CSS should not be allowed in strict doctypes Fri, 07 Jul 2006 06:16:33 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-2856 [...] Instead, according to friendly bit, the strict doctype requires us to define all CSS in a different file. [...] [...] Instead, according to friendly bit, the strict doctype requires us to define all CSS in a different file. [...]

]]> By: Justin Perkinshttp://friendlybit.com/css/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-2147 Justin Perkins Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:47:38 +0000 http://friendlybit.com/html/inline-css-should-not-be-allowed-in-strict-doctypes/#comment-2147 I'm with you on that one Emil, great discussion you promoted here :) I’m with you on that one Emil, great discussion you promoted here :)

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